Paganism talks about equality between the two genders. I talk about the days of the Celts where men and women were equals. Both men and women can own land, inherit wealth, and fight in battle as equals. In Celtic society it was the person with the most financi9al wealth in the marriage that made the decisions, and so the female could very well make all the decisions of the family. It was the spread of Southern European and Christian values that put an end to that. Soon women were treated as property and second rate people. Something that I find disgusting.
We have made some great changes in society since then. Women have laws in place to protect them from being treat bad by most men. I say most men because not all men follow the law. Women can go to college and enter the job market like most men can now. There are still some issues with equality, but it is caused by a select few men, not the majority in general.
One of the great aspects of Paganism is that it promotes gender equality. And so many women flock to paganism for a chance to have religious freedom that they are not allowed in many Abrahamic groups. This has cause a great imbalance of women to men in paganism. And it is starting to affect the balance in paganism , in my opinion. Feminism has been crawling in at a steady rate and is now affecting groups of pagans.
As I stated in a previous post, with the Arrest of Kenny Klein, a door was opened to promote feminism quicker in paganism. I saw a few statements that were also direct transfers of rhetoric from Atheist Plus to paganism. With mentioning the "Don't be that Guy" campaign in Canada. I find this troublesome.
Today , I encountered feminism in a Facebook group, and it inspired me to write this blog. I have been seeing a lot of imagery and comments about women be better than men. I responded to image that has a man apologizing to a female deity, the female being mother earth. And I would have just ignored the whole image, but it has the female aspect calling the man aspect self centered. Then it stated that the earth would survive with man by stating" You are fucking yourself over big time and you won't be missed." I found this to be a massive insult to me. SO I stated that I found this image to be sexist by having the man being showed as flawed and the woman as a goddess. And then how I usually see many goddess images on Facebook, but so little god images. Then I used science to remind that life here would be possible if it wasn't for the sun. Many aspects view the sun as male and the earth female. SO where was the gender balance in this image.
And the response was classic feminist tactics.
Lena Breijer The sun is female too - get over it.
Lorn West No, in some paths, the sun is considered male. learn something.
Telling me to 'get over it' was an aggressive move be this lady. I responded in kind, by telling her to learn something.
JD Hobbes Dial it back Lorn. No need to be so aggressive. We're all just sharing our ideas.
Lorn West JD , And someone just told me to 'get over it', where is your comment to her to not get aggressive?
JD Hobbes Telling Lena to "learn something" was unnecessary and insulting
Lorn West And her telling me to 'get over it' was insulting to me. and yet you said nothing.
JD Hobbes Boo-hoo. Life is so unfair.
Lorn West Oh great the white knight is here.
The white knight is a man that will defend any and all females in a fight even if she was the one that started the fight. There has been many studies and TV shows that show white knights in action. Women in general can cause fights in groups of people because they know that most men would enter the fight to defend her, even though she threw the fight punch.
And the feminist rhetoric is in Paganism. I was asking for equality, was never insulting towards women.
Serendipity Ninth perhaps you can "get over" your male white privilege and see things through alternative eyes...
Lena Breijer Yes the sun is male in some southern regions - like those have have tried to run over the rest of the world for the last 3000 years - get over it. It is our turn. Most of what has been done to the earth that s discussed was due to male gods and and MEN in power wanting more and more power and cash - suck it up baby
Lorn West white male privilege, comment that is sexist and racist at the same time. Just because a man is white doesn't mean that he is blessed with privileges.
Serendipity Ninth you may not recognize the privileges you have, but being annoyed by this comic shows male privilege in that you're annoyed that it doesn't fit your comfortable stereotypes (just the uncomfortable ones).
See the spite that these pagan women have for men. It is so terrible and unneeded. SO let me get this straight, because men from 200 years ago did some bad things it is my fault. Just because men from 1000 years ago did some stupid things I must be held accountable because I have a penis. I am not those men that oppressed any woman a hundred years ago from attending college. I am not the man that blocked equal pay, but these angry ladies are holding me responsible for it. I have to pay for the crimes committed against women for the last 3000 years in some areas just because I have a penis. The sins of the father are passed on to the son for eternity.
Lena's ending to her comment was absolutely pathetic. "suck it up baby". Another aggressive angry comment by the same person, and the white knight does nothing. Calling me a baby is an insult, and this JD Hobbes is the supposed admin for a debate group. The typical white knight does exactly what white knights do. Goes blind to female aggression and only sees men as the aggressors. It is his way to pay for the guilt he has for the crimes ,against females committed over the last 3000 years. Even though he has done none of it.
SO I have to ask a simple question. Do any of these ladies and all ladies in general use these advances created by man ? I personally find it hypocritical for women to complain about the ways 'men' have corrupted the world, but have no problems using these advances that resulted in their actions. Most of the current smart phones a dependent of rare metals to function, these metals are strip mined in China. Yet how many have the latest cellphone? I don't own a cellphone, and I never will.
I have seen women's business groups form all over Facebook and other social media. And that would be fine if these same women didn't complain about the 'good ole boy's club'. https://www.facebook.com/myBWNOnline So why are men wrong for doing something that women are doing? IN Canada , women protest the MRA events. Funny how it would be sexist and oppressive for men to protest Women's events , but it is alright for women to protest men's events.
As I see it, women have benefited from all the advancements of 'men' but they are passing the blame for all the bad results on men. Women have aided in development of sciences as well, but only man is guilty for raping the earth. I am tired of hearing that society is a patriarchy or male dominated. Bars have Ladies night, where woman can drink half priced drinks, men don't have that. Men are told to give up their seat so a lady can sit down. Half of the Domestic violence in the US is proven statistically to be caused by women, but there is a "Violence against Woman act". The selective Service still only requires boys to sign up at age 18, not women. There have been wonderful female world leaders like Margaret Thatcher of the UK, Merkel for Germany. In the "Ban Bossy" campaign one of the speakers is a woman that is a billionaire.
So I will end this with one simple question. The Feminist movements has created many laws that protects women's rights to go to college, get a job, and buy a home. There are laws that protect a woman and give her special treatment if she suffers from domestic abuse. There are laws now and some still be worked on that provide women with equal pay rate. There are many colleges and business that now have quota on how many women must be employed, meaning that a better male candidate could be turned down to make the quota. Has feminism grown so powerful and drunk with power that they don't want equality, they want vengeance?
The next time you watch a feminist video, see if they mention 'women's rights' or 'equal rights'. If they can't mention 'equal rights' they are not working for equal rights.
