Wicca hasn't been around very long. It is a part of the Neopagan movement. It has exploded in numbers because of the many virtues it offers. Also when you compare Wicca with all it possibilities to Christianity with all of its limitations, how could you resist Wicca. If you have been watching how paganism has grown and become more mainstream, you probably seen this coming. To many people becoming "wiccan" without someone to help them accomplish the goal.
Many wiccan traditions require a person to be initiated by a high level priest or priestess. But so many people have chosen this path and they are so spread out it is impossible for everyone to get shown all of the structure in that belief system. This has resulted in many people creating a belief that is missing major parts. Many people have mixed understandings on how things should be. People letting personal feelings interfere with something that has the potential of being wonderful.
Recently I read "Living Wicca, by Scott Cunningham" I enjoy his books and they do give me things to think about. He made a couple statements that I have been pondering...... "Wiccan traditions are one of our religion's strongest survival mechanisms. Structure is necessary for every religion's survival. Without it, it will crumble in confusion and chaos."...... "Wicca isn't a spiritual free-for-all. A true wiccan tradition must be based on Wiccan Conventions. Though there is plenty of room for personal touches, some things are essentially wiccan and can't be discarded." So what happens when these traditions are ignored or forgotten? I believe that many people that say they are wiccan, have only half the story. Since Wicca is a branch of Paganism, what effects Wicca effects paganism.
Let's start off with the most overwhelming one. "Hey , I am male and I am not evil." I find it troubling that many wiccans have such a hard time accepting a male god aspect. They are so scarred by Christianity that they will shun any male god concept. That is like getting a bad haircut and deciding to go bald from that moment on. Just because there was a bad result with this one male god concept doesn't mean that they are all bad. There is a male and female aspect, the lord and the lady. Yet I have talked to many wiccans that 'honor' at least 4 goddesses, but not one single god. How can you honor the many aspects of the universe if you are refusing to accept a male god?
Wouldn't it be great if we were all just happy and didn't have a care in the world. Well then you are dreaming, in reality there is light and dark aspects of nature. And too many wiccans seem to shun anything remotely 'negative'. The cycle of life requires us to be born and for us to die to make room for the next generation. It is a reoccurring cycle of life that everything that lives must also die. The crone is so abused and neglected by many 'happy' wiccans. The crone is called upon for dark mean things, I have seen wiccans call on a crone for vengeance, but shun her the rest of the time. The crone is not evil, she is wisdom, kindness, caring, nurturing, and if you piss her off she will make you pay dearly. How many of you had a grandmother while you were kids. She was there to help you, care for you, she loved you. And in those rare occasions when someone did you wrong, she got angry. The crone is a spiritual grandmother.. Treat her with some respect.
Light and Dark, you can't have one without the other. Moments in life require us to be not so nice. Just like above where wiccans seem to shun the crone. They also seem to shun anything considered dark. Many wiccans will yell and scream "Harm none", but that is not realistic. You have to be able to protect yourself and others around you. And how do you know that something that helps you doesn't hurt someone else. The concept of Harm none is about making people think before they do something that they might regret. I remind wiccans that talk about shunning darkness if they love looking at the full moon. And of course they love looking at the full moon and rituals during the Esbats. I have to remind them that the moon shines brightest during the darkness of night. Even in darkness there is beauty and purpose, stop shunning it.
Be honest with yourself. There is a structure of titles with Wicca and most of paganism. You can't just read a book or two and declare yourself a priest or priestess. I have seen people claim a title that they have not earned, not only does it make them look bad, it makes other wiccans look bad as well. I could spend twenty bucks and become an ordained minister, but have I earned the title, no. Think long and hard if you really deserve to be called a certain title before you claim it. And a title doesn't make you a better person, you are still you without or with that title.
Wicca is a form of paganism, it is not a separate entity. Wicca is pagan just like Asatru is pagan. As pagans you have to embrace the diversity of the pagan community. To shun any group of pagans because they are 'hostile' or 'negative' is to turn your back on fellow pagans.
Honoring gods and goddess should take time. I have seen wiccansyoutube video that covers this perfectly. Too many wiccans treat gods and goddesses as Pokemon cards. whenever the need arises they pull the card out and demand service. That is not how it works, You have to build a relationship with the gods and goddesses. going down a list of Celtic goddesses until you find the one that fits doesn't work. You have to do what they call on you to do first, before they are going to help you in anyway.
I have read the Wiccan Rede many times. It is not the law of Wicca, In 1974 a complete twenty-six line poem entitled "The Wiccan Rede" was published in the neo-Pagan magazine Earth Religion News. Use it as a guideline not as dogmatic laws.
There has to be structure, something that is not changing to build your beliefs on. I believe that too many people that are new to Wicca have failed to build this structure. They are constantly reworking what they believe to fit the moment that they need it. That is just as wrong as the Christians that pick and choose from the bible to justify the actions that they do. They will have one verse that says don't do it, and another that says to do it, so they are covered in anyway needed. Sometimes we can't rewrite our beliefs to fit the situation. If the situation doesn't fit your beliefs, maybe the situation is wrong and you have to change that.
I am not saying that you can't be a solitary practitioner, I am a solitary practitioner, but not wiccan. I think that many wiccans have jumped into this head first without thinking and without taking the time to learn all the details. I would be great if there were more groups so that everyone can find someone to interact with about the path they have chosen. I believe that those that are knowledgeable of Wiccan and paganism should reach out to those that are needing a hand and guide them on their path. We shouldn't and can't walk their path, but maybe our paths could run along other 's paths and help them out from time to time.
Wednesday, April 25, 2012
The Darker side of Wicca, Part 2
I have to give credit where credit is due, and shame where shame is due. First off there are good wiccans out there. People that have been part of a coven and learned a tradition and have a great deal of structure into there belief system. I didn't say that in part one, and I should have.
Part two is about politics in paganism. How paganism is not a group of happy everybody gets along with everyone else. Pagans generally have many different views that reflect the many different branches of paganism. And it is these different views can cause a tremendous amount of anguish in a group of people, Online or in Real life interactions.
So Part one was posted in the group in question. Many people changed there views about me. Some people apologized for their actions and we moved on. I watched for a few days from the sidelines as events unfolded, and then I was allowed back into the group. One person struck me as a massive drama queen. One of the Admins posted that they were called Nazis. In my previous blog I made a reference to how people like me were treated compares to how Hitler treated the Jews. I even used the word totalaristic, but I never used the word Nazi. This person was playing victim. Though she was one of the people seeking to delete posts and remove people, the moment someone commented about her actions in a manner she didn't like, she tried to make everyone believe that she was unjustly attacked. The only person that called her or any of the other admins Nazis, was herself. Shortly after I returned this person made a post." Post deleted 3.2.1" . Because she knew that I was posting on the group. I saw this post and asked her why she felt the need to make a post, and she refused to comment. Miss Atwell can't play victim if she is caught causing troubles.
The group leader had numerous times told people that they need to take there negative ways out of the group. Mrs. Muck posted many times that she thinks there is too much hostility and that people need to take it outside of the group. Yet there was a young man that decided to take any outside issue and vent about it in the group. He was complaining about someone "playing Pagan". In a post he later said that the person he was complaining about was not in the group, and that he was just venting. Mrs Muck posted on that very thread, but never told him to keep his outside troubles outside of the group. I guess that was one of those selective rule enforcements.
Upon my return to this group I made a comment about how the admins for the group were set-up. Would you believe that they had someone that was actually an online store account as an admin. So I made a comment about maybe adding some of the ones that were on the other side of the fence as admins to help get things balanced. It wouldn't change how people acted, but then someone wouldn't have to worry so much about being alienated. This idea resulted into a messed-up election process. Two polls were created, the first one I had people supporting me, I guess that didn't sit well with the admins and they deleted the first poll and created a second one under a different person's account. They were adding names, removing names. and turned it into a circus. The dumbest part I see was the current admins added there names to the list of people. This was about adding different people and they turned it into a way to see who likes them and who doesn't. Because with the wonders of facebook you can see who voted for who. I made a comment about giving everyone a week to vote on who they wanted, the current admins gave it just a couple days. talking about controlling a vote. And the final straw for the supposed elections was so corrupt, I felt that the republicans had taken over the pagan group. Mrs. Muck disclosed after the "election" that one of the 2 people SHE promoted to admin was her husband. After the fact, and she had the nerve to ask if anyone had any problems with it... with people knowing that at least 2 people were banned from the group on the same day. It is like having the Republicans controlling the election and saying that Obama has a fair chance of winning.
So I was one of the people banned from the group. But I was able to see the posts still and watched as the darkness swept across this group. The two new admins made posts stating that they were going to remove the negativity from the group, deleting negative posts and the people that posted them. Wow complete and total censorship has been installed. But you would have to hope that these new anti-negativity rules would be enforced on everyone equally. But alas they aren't. I seen new admin Ryan have a conversation with people calling me a "hatemonger" . I never called people a name like that in any form, I was viewed as negative because I would disagree with some of the posts people made. Now the last time I checked Hatemonger was a negative insult. Did Ryan do anything to stop such posts? No he allowed them to continue. I watched a long thread in which a different member called a person several negative names, 3 of the 4 admins were active in this long thread, and they did NOTHING. So these admins are not against negativity, they are only against select people that do it. One thing that I remind myself is this fact. "The battle between right and wrong is lost the moment that you allow your friends to do something that you wouldn't allow your enemy to do." Selective rule enforcement is corruption. How can they claim to be positive and just people when they act in such a corrupt manner.
Leaders need to lead, they need to follow a set line of rules. In parenting you have to be consistent when disciplining the child or they will not learn. You can't say one day that it is all right, then the next spank the child for the same exact situation. You can't make two sets of rules for two children, that will cause nothing more that hate and fighting. Honor and integrity are needed if you want to be someone people can look up to. There are times we have to make the not so nice decision. And this transfers to many of these eclectic wiccans, They are lacking structure and consistency with their beliefs. They want to be surrounded by love and light, they will shun darkness, and anyone that doesn't will face all the darkness that they hide beneath their supposed good nature.
Part two is about politics in paganism. How paganism is not a group of happy everybody gets along with everyone else. Pagans generally have many different views that reflect the many different branches of paganism. And it is these different views can cause a tremendous amount of anguish in a group of people, Online or in Real life interactions.
So Part one was posted in the group in question. Many people changed there views about me. Some people apologized for their actions and we moved on. I watched for a few days from the sidelines as events unfolded, and then I was allowed back into the group. One person struck me as a massive drama queen. One of the Admins posted that they were called Nazis. In my previous blog I made a reference to how people like me were treated compares to how Hitler treated the Jews. I even used the word totalaristic, but I never used the word Nazi. This person was playing victim. Though she was one of the people seeking to delete posts and remove people, the moment someone commented about her actions in a manner she didn't like, she tried to make everyone believe that she was unjustly attacked. The only person that called her or any of the other admins Nazis, was herself. Shortly after I returned this person made a post." Post deleted 3.2.1" . Because she knew that I was posting on the group. I saw this post and asked her why she felt the need to make a post, and she refused to comment. Miss Atwell can't play victim if she is caught causing troubles.
The group leader had numerous times told people that they need to take there negative ways out of the group. Mrs. Muck posted many times that she thinks there is too much hostility and that people need to take it outside of the group. Yet there was a young man that decided to take any outside issue and vent about it in the group. He was complaining about someone "playing Pagan". In a post he later said that the person he was complaining about was not in the group, and that he was just venting. Mrs Muck posted on that very thread, but never told him to keep his outside troubles outside of the group. I guess that was one of those selective rule enforcements.
Upon my return to this group I made a comment about how the admins for the group were set-up. Would you believe that they had someone that was actually an online store account as an admin. So I made a comment about maybe adding some of the ones that were on the other side of the fence as admins to help get things balanced. It wouldn't change how people acted, but then someone wouldn't have to worry so much about being alienated. This idea resulted into a messed-up election process. Two polls were created, the first one I had people supporting me, I guess that didn't sit well with the admins and they deleted the first poll and created a second one under a different person's account. They were adding names, removing names. and turned it into a circus. The dumbest part I see was the current admins added there names to the list of people. This was about adding different people and they turned it into a way to see who likes them and who doesn't. Because with the wonders of facebook you can see who voted for who. I made a comment about giving everyone a week to vote on who they wanted, the current admins gave it just a couple days. talking about controlling a vote. And the final straw for the supposed elections was so corrupt, I felt that the republicans had taken over the pagan group. Mrs. Muck disclosed after the "election" that one of the 2 people SHE promoted to admin was her husband. After the fact, and she had the nerve to ask if anyone had any problems with it... with people knowing that at least 2 people were banned from the group on the same day. It is like having the Republicans controlling the election and saying that Obama has a fair chance of winning.
So I was one of the people banned from the group. But I was able to see the posts still and watched as the darkness swept across this group. The two new admins made posts stating that they were going to remove the negativity from the group, deleting negative posts and the people that posted them. Wow complete and total censorship has been installed. But you would have to hope that these new anti-negativity rules would be enforced on everyone equally. But alas they aren't. I seen new admin Ryan have a conversation with people calling me a "hatemonger" . I never called people a name like that in any form, I was viewed as negative because I would disagree with some of the posts people made. Now the last time I checked Hatemonger was a negative insult. Did Ryan do anything to stop such posts? No he allowed them to continue. I watched a long thread in which a different member called a person several negative names, 3 of the 4 admins were active in this long thread, and they did NOTHING. So these admins are not against negativity, they are only against select people that do it. One thing that I remind myself is this fact. "The battle between right and wrong is lost the moment that you allow your friends to do something that you wouldn't allow your enemy to do." Selective rule enforcement is corruption. How can they claim to be positive and just people when they act in such a corrupt manner.
Leaders need to lead, they need to follow a set line of rules. In parenting you have to be consistent when disciplining the child or they will not learn. You can't say one day that it is all right, then the next spank the child for the same exact situation. You can't make two sets of rules for two children, that will cause nothing more that hate and fighting. Honor and integrity are needed if you want to be someone people can look up to. There are times we have to make the not so nice decision. And this transfers to many of these eclectic wiccans, They are lacking structure and consistency with their beliefs. They want to be surrounded by love and light, they will shun darkness, and anyone that doesn't will face all the darkness that they hide beneath their supposed good nature.
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